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Title: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 03, 2006, 11:36:44 am
Do you make your own darts? If you do......Tell us how you make them. I'm sure there are Many different ways to make them just wondering...


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 03, 2006, 01:41:34 pm
Materials:
Pliers
16 gauge wire cut in 1" legnths
Foam Backer rod Or caulk saver cut into 2"-21/2" legnths
Hot glue gun

Now take your wire and bend it into a U shape.Hold it on the bent part of the U then put it over
a flame for a couple seconds ant insert it into the end of the backer rod.Now put a dome of hot glue on the end with the wire in it.Now you see the medal tip of the glue gun insert it in the back end of the dart. Now you have made your very own wire Stefan. ;D


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 03, 2006, 02:12:01 pm
Cool! I hear some people use thumb tacts in homemade darts..


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 03, 2006, 02:15:27 pm
Yeah they work too I personally haven't made one but they're the same consept.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 03, 2006, 02:18:42 pm
Thumb tacs are heavier tho. I wonder if if they make it fly farther or slow it down? Hmm..


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 03, 2006, 02:25:49 pm
TRY IT. ;D


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 03, 2006, 02:34:33 pm
Experimention is the best way to find stuff out.. ;D


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 03, 2006, 02:48:48 pm
I love Experimentation. ;D :) ;)


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 03, 2006, 03:11:44 pm
Yes but sometimes it can screw stuff up!


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 10, 2006, 02:44:39 pm
Yep


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 14, 2006, 01:23:08 pm
The problem is i don't have any modded guns that use homemade darts.. :-\
Kinda

Stupid for me to say that now ;D


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 14, 2006, 04:50:09 pm
What do you mean the only thing you have to do to make it shoot them is thake out the pegs.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 14, 2006, 05:46:55 pm
I know i don't want to break them. I will one of these days.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on July 14, 2006, 06:00:15 pm
your Nf is one of the easyiest(sp) guns to mod on the market.And didn't you said you had modded guns


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 15, 2006, 06:44:49 pm
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And didn't you said you had modded guns

No, my friend has some....I don't but he modded my tek 6 for me he still has to give it to me.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 03, 2006, 07:48:47 pm
Cut a 1 inch piece of 1/2 in FBR and melt a hole about 1/16 inch deep in the tip.  Place a BB in that tiny little hole.  Cover it with a hot glue dome about 1/2 inch.  Then dip it into water fast.  Let is sit there and then spray the back of the dart with Flourescant Green spray paint so that it can be seen in the grass.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 06, 2006, 03:33:14 pm
I never thought of dipping it in water, thats a good idea.....

I do this:


I cut the proper length of Foam backer rod.
I make an hole in the top and stuff the bb in.
I pump some hot glue on the tip, level it out and....

WAIT! ;D

Really the hardest part of making these darts is putting too much or to little glue on them.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Flannel on October 09, 2006, 05:07:13 pm
Post some pictures of your darts Megamannt92.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 09, 2006, 07:02:37 pm
Ok the pics are a little fuzzy but you get the point...Just ignore the Metallica CD on top. ;D

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/Megamannt92/HPIM1407.jpg)
(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/Megamannt92/HPIM1408.jpg)


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 13, 2006, 06:48:38 pm
Make your darts shorter and straighten them.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 13, 2006, 06:57:38 pm
They strighten after you use them a bit and i sorta like the length they are at.

To each is own. :angel:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 13, 2006, 06:59:07 pm
Shorter is better, save air guns.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 13, 2006, 07:04:11 pm
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Shorter is better

Yea but they spin out alot.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 13, 2006, 07:07:19 pm
Not if made right.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 14, 2006, 07:56:21 pm
yeah but I can't make them any good


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 15, 2006, 01:51:57 pm
Just experiment, you will find a setup that works for you eventually.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 15, 2006, 03:37:51 pm
To tell you the truth I haven't made any in a while.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 15, 2006, 04:24:08 pm
That could be your problem.  Make a few fairly often, that keeps you good.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 15, 2006, 04:36:16 pm
I made 86 darts a couple days ago.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 15, 2006, 04:40:03 pm
My current dart count is at 3,542.  All of them good darts.  This doesn't count CDTS.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 16, 2006, 03:39:39 pm
Well...since school started I haven't had time to nerf at all I've got my nerf guns out a few times but I still haven't nerfed with anyone. :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 16, 2006, 07:25:35 pm
That is what weekends are for.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 18, 2006, 01:50:14 pm
I suppose you're right


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 18, 2006, 06:22:50 pm
I was just wondering how many darts you can roll out in an hour.  I can get one off every thrity seconds if I am not all OCD about my darts.  If I am it takes me about 1 minute.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 19, 2006, 06:36:59 am
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I can get one off every thrity seconds if I am not all OCD about my darts.  If I am it takes me about 1 minute.


Yea thats about how fast i can make em'.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 19, 2006, 08:07:40 am
Thirty seconds, or one minute?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 19, 2006, 02:41:54 pm
I was just wondering how many darts you can roll out in an hour.  I can get one off every thrity seconds if I am not all OCD about my darts.  If I am it takes me about 1 minute.
I can do one about every bout minute and a half.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 19, 2006, 02:52:04 pm
Thirty seconds if i'm trying.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on October 19, 2006, 04:46:06 pm
Thats pretty fast.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 23, 2006, 05:02:13 pm
Not if you make alot of darts and practice alot.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on October 24, 2006, 09:32:56 am
Yep General's right. It takes practice...Just like anything...

You should see what my first couple darts looked like. :cheesy:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on October 24, 2006, 03:50:59 pm
Everyones first darts suck, save my friends, he is just natural.  Too bad his mom won't let him mod his guns.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: robonerfer on April 05, 2007, 07:06:12 am
I can make darts very fast if I use a low temp glue gun and put them in a magstrike clip to dry. :wink:

P.S.- I know this is old, but it's Stickied.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: jwasko on April 07, 2007, 10:12:55 pm
P.S.- I know this is old, but it's Stickied.

I can accept that.  :wink:

Anyway, I can make darts fairly fast due to the fact that I make washer stefans. They're kind of like the ones that Captain Slug (I think) created, but not...After I read that liquid nails can cause cancer or something, I switched to just hot glue...and I can't get felt pads, so I just use a traditional hot glue dome tip.

Unfortunately, the washers/tips are always falling off, so...yeah, I think I'm going to have to switch to something else. Although, it keeps the enemy from firing your ammo back at you.  :evil:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: sourskittles772 on April 08, 2007, 05:29:33 am
My Stefans

Materials

Fbr about 2 inches a dart
1/4 inch slingshot weights
hotglue gun

slingshot weights work good in really high power guns. Like for my singled at3k I think I would be better with copper. But once I get a big blast or titan they will be perfect! 1/4 slingshot weights sell at walmart for 3.50$ for 100 bbs. And you put one in a dart...

What weights do anyone you use for cdtg?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: robonerfer on April 08, 2007, 08:34:56 pm
I use BBs. If i'm making ones for my soon-to-be-brassed LBB, I put 2 in.
Otherwise, 1. A funny thing is I have more CDTS than FBR stefans because I have so many stock darts.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on April 08, 2007, 08:41:49 pm
BBs are the best, I've tried some other things but BBs seem to be the perfect size and weight.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on June 02, 2007, 03:25:34 pm
BBs are the best, use 3 for CDTS.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on June 16, 2007, 01:38:32 pm
What weights do anyone you use for cdtg?

  When I make my CDTS, I don't even put a weight. I  take the head off, cut off that little thing that goes into the dart, and put hot glue on it. I tried it with a 1/4 slingshot weight and it only went about 10 feet :tongue:.

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on June 16, 2007, 02:49:21 pm
They would be too light.  What gun did you shoot them out of.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on June 16, 2007, 03:23:31 pm
They would be too light.  What gun did you shoot them out of.

  Just so you know, this is about the only style of dart I use. They outperform stock darts in range and sometimes accuracy in my Longshot, Crossfire, DTG's, Nitefinder, and Wookie Bowcaster. I don't know how everybody deals with such heavy darts in lightly modded guns like mine.

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on June 16, 2007, 03:26:15 pm
I use 1in stefans, but that is because they work.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Noobish111 on July 01, 2007, 11:51:58 am
I personally don't make darts (I will someday....) but I have a few questions:

What material would/do you use for a Titan Missle
Will the Darts work with the Longshot*
Is it dangerous to make/use them

*The only reason I ask this is because my LS doesnt work with the velcro darts.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on July 01, 2007, 12:10:09 pm
I'm not sure about the first question. Yeah the LS does not work well with the tagger darts. But regular foam backer rod darts will work in a Longshot. Just make sure you glue the ends of the darts correctly....


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: sourskittles772 on July 01, 2007, 12:59:18 pm
If you have lightly modded guns dont bother making stefans. Use airsoft bbs for cdt's. And titan missle... Just cpvc the thing... We did that to my friends with a flat head and a pair of scissors. It was hitting around 110 with my darts.Stefans can be painful... Just wear glasses. And you should be fine.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Noobish111 on July 01, 2007, 01:21:15 pm
What do you mean by CPVP the thing?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: sourskittles772 on July 01, 2007, 03:49:43 pm
I said cpvc. Its a new barrel. Unscrew the main barrel. and just push on that thing with a flat head.  then use a pocket knife or scissors and carve it out a little bit then you can cpvc its a plastic barrel.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on July 01, 2007, 05:00:53 pm
Just don't shoot someones eye directly.  For a missile, use foam pipe covers.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on August 14, 2007, 09:37:13 am
The other day we wet to Ace Hardware and I finally got some FBR! Unfortuntely, I tried it in my 9/16 and it fell out. I was just wondering if anyone else uses Ace "Caulk Saver Foam Rope" and it works. Lets see, it has a somewhat shiny outer side, as if there was a plastic covering (but I dont think there is). The bag I bought was $4.49 and had 20 feet of FBR. Pic.
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z262/Foam_Total_War/FBR.jpg)
In the picture it says 3/8 in. but I seem to remember the real bag saying 1/2. I don't have a glue gun on this trip so I haven't had a chance to make stefans. One more thing, why exactly do people make stefans shorter than stock darts?

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on August 14, 2007, 04:17:56 pm
Hmmm well I use a different brand of FBR...I get mine at Home Depot. I think 1/2 is the right size though.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on August 14, 2007, 09:02:54 pm
why exactly do people make stefans shorter than stock darts?

-Foam :cool:

Anyone on that?

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on August 15, 2007, 08:04:22 am
I'm not really sure....I don't really make mine any shorter than regular stock darts. Cole would probably have a explanation, lets wait for his opinion.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on August 15, 2007, 08:11:33 am
Yes I do.  They have less friction because they are smaller, but not short enough to maintain accuracy provided by the foam tail.  The longer the tail, the higher the risk of fistainling, but if it doesn't, it is fairly accurate, but a good 1in dart can be just as good.  You need Caulk Saver.  Look in the package and look for anything other than foam rope.  If it has rubber or something on it, its no good.  Try to get that.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on August 15, 2007, 10:01:08 am
Actually on the site it says Caulk Saver Foam Rope and on the bag it says Caulk Backing. Also, what do you guys think would be a good substitute for fishing weights, slingshot weights, and BBs. You think sand would work?

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on August 16, 2007, 08:29:20 am
No, I don't think so.  .2gram Airsoft BBs may work, they have good size and weight.  You can get those at Wal-Mart.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Aguineapig on August 16, 2007, 08:47:12 am
I use .20 gram air soft bbs in my stefans, but remember to put 2 in it because 1 isn't heavy enough. Some work for me some don't, but i haven't made that many.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on August 17, 2007, 11:42:01 am
IF YOU CAN GET BBs, DO IT!  Pellets, unless its like .43 or .35 DONT WEIGHT ENOUGH!


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on August 19, 2007, 06:51:32 pm
I've tried using all sorts a weights....You can't go wrong with steel BBs, they are the best. They are pretty cheap too, if you just use them for dart smithing they will last awhile.

I would not use pellets because they can be sharp and they sometimes have lead in 'em.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on August 20, 2007, 12:18:03 pm
Zinc is better.  Wait, what kind of pellets?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Foam: Total War on August 22, 2007, 08:26:02 am
Fortunately, the other day I went to my old friend's house on the way back from Colorado and he had stefans made out of the same FBR I bought. I also realized how good the weight  can be; when compared to my unweighted CDTS' it totally pned them in accuract, range, and armor piercing-ness (it went through both sides of a BBB box, the CDTS only made a dent). The real stefan had the weight fly out the front and hit a drumset, so I...relieved my friend of it for a sample so I can find the right weights later on.

P.S. This friend had a what I think is a Double Crossbow and an old 4 shot Larami Springer with no barrels (it had the barrel post air delivery system).  It was pretty cool to see some old guns.

-Foam :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on August 26, 2007, 02:58:18 pm
Ha double crossbow being good!  Nice joke.  The springer was probably a SM250 or 350.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Aguineapig on August 26, 2007, 05:13:34 pm
My neighbor has one of those(sm250). It kinda sucks, but it was stock. i believe the at1k was a remake of that gun.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on March 30, 2008, 11:07:41 am
Man...I stink at making darts.

What is the best way to make the darts stright?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Aguineapig on March 30, 2008, 12:33:39 pm
Dryer method works best.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Tragonan on March 30, 2008, 02:22:08 pm
I'm about to do Captain Slug's method, I just have to wait for the stuff from McMaster. I'll give a review, if you want me to.
Mega, you can mod guns now, right? I'm assuming that since the start of this topic, you've started modding?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on March 30, 2008, 04:14:25 pm
Hehe...Yeah I mod guns, I have some write-ups around this site. This topic was started a little over a year ago, back when me, Duck_slayer and Flannel were the only members. I've learned alot about modding since then.



Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on March 30, 2008, 04:32:57 pm
Ahh good times good times...


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Megamannt92 on April 10, 2008, 07:57:16 am
Ahh good times good times...

Yup...Threads with 25 posts...Only 3 posters.  :grin:

On topic:

I need to get some FBR and make some darts....I have not made them in awhile so I'll have to teach myself all over again! Not like I really knew what I was doing first place. :tongue:

Is dart making like riding a bike? Do you forget?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: P.C. III on April 10, 2008, 07:21:51 pm
Try and find out. :cool:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Ratchet on April 27, 2008, 08:15:31 am
I don't know if this is classified as homemade.
Materials
  • Stock micro darts
  • 4.5mm BB's
  • Hot glue
  • Scissors

I take stock micro darts, cut off the head but leave the purple shaft in there. I then
place a 4.5mm BB on top of the shaft. Next you lay a pool of solid hot glue on top of the BB so it is rounded to look like a bullet. This makes them fly a lot farther than stock micros. I haven't compared them to actual stefans though.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Duck_slayer on April 27, 2008, 03:25:07 pm
Um yeah those are called CDTS(converted dart tag stefans) only you use regular darts rather than taggers.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: General Cole on April 27, 2008, 09:35:19 pm
Originally invented by Falcon, only just let them dry by gravity, it is much more consistent.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: aamiller123 on May 06, 2008, 03:33:37 pm
I use stefans I call midgets. No one can take one out of my barrels because they are only 1 inch long. :cheesy:


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: sam on May 06, 2008, 06:31:05 pm
No one takes darts out of barrels, so it shouldn't affect how long your darts are, and if they do, why are you playing with them?


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: Aguineapig on May 06, 2008, 07:12:43 pm
There could be multiple reasons he uses short darts, Some people think they have better aero-dynamics.


Title: Re: Dart making
Post by: aamiller123 on May 07, 2008, 03:29:25 pm
That and you get a lot more out of 20 feet of FBR.