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First off, the Lanard Blast Bazooka (LBB) is the easiest gun i have ever modified.  It has no barrel post and the air restrictor is in the front. You can take it out without even opening the gun but that is a bit harder.

1) First off, open the gun up. Not very hard at all. Here is what is should look like.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture001.jpg)

2) See that little gray piece on the end of the orange barrel? You probably do, for people who don't know, its protecting little kids who want to shoot screwdrivers at people. I on the other hand, shot a fondue fork out of it and from 10 feet away it stabbed into drywall. So, just get some pliers or screwdriver and pop the little thing out. It will take a few tries because its glued in there. Heres a picture of before and after.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture002.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture004.jpg)

3) You are done if all you want is about 60-70 feet out of it. Just stuff a Stefan down the orange barrel, pump 10 times, and shoot. Beware though, my LBB likes to fart. By this I mean that if i don't pull the trigger all the way down, it wont let all the air out and only shoot 40 feet. Just make sure you ram the dart as far as possible and pull the trigger hard and fast. If you want better range, put on a brass barrel ( i don't have brass) or CPVC. For the brass use 9/16 ( don't know if that is correct but i think it is for micros) and 1/2" for the CPVC. You going to need to dremel the CPVC out a bit though. With a barrel i got around 80 feet. When i added my CPVC barrel, i just used hot glue to stick it together, than a few layers of electrical tape to hold it tight. You may want something to hold the barrel though, the tape is sort of week.

4) Plugging the pump will get you 100+ feet. I loose all my darts when they go over my yard and into my neighbor's. How to plug the pump will come after school Wednesday. As always, don't shoot little kids, this thing fully pumped, modded, and filled with a Stefan hurts. Leaves a bigger welt than my friends air soft rifle.


PS: Here is the link to the normal sized pictures. http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/      Don't know if they are too big or not and i don't know how to resize them correctly.

First mod writeup so bear with me please.

It was quite a good writeup. In particular, it was very clearly explained for those who are just getting into Nerf. The pictures might be just a little too big, but at least they're easy to see. I know of one way to resize them, but it isn't the best so I'll leave it up to others to help you.

I'm pretty sure that 9/16" is the correct size.

How did you dremel down the entire length of your CPVC barrel? (I'm thinking that's what you're saying you did)

I dont have a dremel. I got my power drill and some perfect size drill bit (dont know the name) and drilled out the innards of the CPVC. Its still a tight fit for the darts and was much faster in my opinion then a dremel.

Actually, I don't see how you could dremel out anything that is only 1/2" diameter and is more than a few inches in length. That's why I was wondering how the heck you could have done that.

Here is how to plug the pump without a dremel. Go here if you have a dremel because its made for people with dremels. http://nerfhaven.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t6586.html

1) Open it up and look at the tail end of the gun where the handle and pump are. Focus on this thing because thats where the pump is hiding.

2) Turn your hot glue gun up to the maximum heat and let it get to its maximum heat before starting. Any lower and it wont do much. Then, start melting about 1mm down into the plastic, not to deep to make a hole but enough to weaken the bond. Once you make your way, slowly, around start wiggling and pulling on the thing like it was a loose tooth. Don't pull to hard or it could break. Before and Afters.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture007.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture010.jpg)
(sorry for the crappy pictures. I hate my camera.)

3) There should be 4 holes around the blue rod near the top. Plug those with a dab of glue. I think those are the saftey things that dont let you over expand it. I could be wrong.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture010-1.jpg)
(same picture i know, but its the best one i got.)
4) Go to the top where the gray circle thing is. Take some hot glue and fill it all up except for the 2 holes on the very end. The yellow circles are what you should leave open. If you cover it up by mistake i guess you could just put the nozzle close to the glue and unmelt it. You might need to burn your finger getting it out. I lost the feeling in my thumb and my index finger from so many burns.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture009.jpg)

5) All done. Put it back together, and you may need to hot glue to "tooth" back on if it wont stay. I just needed to put 3 dabs for it to stick, then wrapped it in Electrical tape to be safe. If you did it right you should feel it get super hard to push after 10-15 pumps. I wont have ranges for awhile, my mom doesn't want me going and shooting in my street after what happened this week.
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/Picture005.jpg)


Questions or comments should be answered on here. If i don't see them, you can PM me. Thanks.

(any help on how to resize pictures would be greatly appreciated.)

well shooting inside did you see a big change?

Nice mod.
And fully modded LBB's are very dangerous and shouldn't be shot inside.

Yeah, there was this one time I shot my brother in the back of the head at point blank range and killed...I mean...he was perfectly fine!  :angel:

(Note: That did not happen, and I would definitely advise against doing it.)

I don't know,  my shooting range is only about 50 feet. Also, don't shoot it inside with a loaded Stefan. I put dents in my wall with it. Also, don't put a screwdriver or something inside like i did. It shot a fondue fork into drywall about 1 inch. Very dangerous but fun.

knock off targets in your basement. Or put targets on the stairs. thats what I do. Also shooting at the wall with powerful gun breakes your darts sometimes...

If I was Canadian I might say:" Holy hork nice mod eh!"  :grin:

But i'm not Canadian....So I'll say nice MOD, Thanks for the content. We need it!

So are you range testing today?

I might, got a huge Shakespeare test to study for... YAWN! So much pointless stuff we learn in school. It is also windy and it is blowing the wrong way. So the dart would either go with or against the wind. I love this weather we are having. That was sarcasm by the way  :azn:

I'm Canadian and you don't see me insulting Americans.

Okay, before this breaks into an argument, everybody just cool it. I don't want this thread to be closed before Nerfingnoob posts ranges (etc.), and I definitely don't want anyone banned from the forum.

And if you really must argue, at least use PMs or something.

Ok, I'm sorry jwasko.

I will have the ranges tonight or early tomorrow. Do i really need to test the stock suction darts and the stock rockets? They suck horribly and only go 30-45 feet. Also, anyone have an idea of how to keep my CPVC barrel leveled? My tape isn't to strong and it jiggles around. Thanks

Well, what did you do to it? If you cut the stock barrel completely off, you're probably going to have to get some epoxy to gluethe CPVC on. And/or, you could do this:
http://thefoamfighters.smfforfree.com/topic/158.0.html with FBR
or this: http://nerfhaven.com/mods/haze_bb/ with wood.

If you have at least an inch or two of stock barrel left, here's a trick that I figured out. It may not be the best, but it works and the barrel seems straight. Plus, it's all easily reversible if you don't like it.

1. Get some 1/2" CPVC and PVC, a  1/2" CPVC coupler, and a 1/2" PVC coupler

2. Cut a 1" to 1.5" (can't remember, might even be longer) piece of PVC, then put it in your coupler. This piece of PVC needs to go all the way in, until it hits the little ledge inside the coupler. You may need a mallet to get it all the way in. (You may also want to cement that together with PVC cement or epoxy, but I didn't).

3. Now dremel sand down the inside of that piece of PVC that you just put in the coupler so that it just barrely fits on the end of your stock barrel. Note that it needs to be a tight fit. (you may want to epoxy this on, but I didn't). Oh, you want your barrel to be able to go all the way through the PVC (i.e. not just the first fraction of an inch)

4. Now, now take the CPVC coupler and stick it in the opposite side of the coupler (the side that has no PVC in it). Again, use a mallet to make sure that you get a good, tight fit. Now, slide the whole thing onto the stock barrel until it stops (it should hit against the CPVC coupler).

5. Make a barrel of desired length out of CPVC, and put it in the CPVC coupler. And that's pretty much it. You now have a CPVC, couplered barrel. Also, the coupler can come off the stock barrel if you want to change something (unless if you epoxy it on).

Of course, the couplered barrel also makes it breech loading. Because I didn't cut my stock barrel off at all, I actually drop my stefan into the stock barrel, then attach the CPVC barrel onto the end. I didn't measure ranges, by the way, but it seemed a little shorter than what I've heard sometimes. Of course, it was raining and I think my barrel's a little short.

Thanks, I was doing ranges after school today but my gun started to mess up. I pumped it 20 times, loaded the dart, pushed it down into the CPVC, and then shot it. With a Stefan i only got around 75' with it at my shoulder ( I'm about 6'0" at the shoulder). The darts after that one started to spiral out of control and dived very quickly. The stock rockets barely went 15 feet too. Anyone know whats wrong with this? I think it could be my barrel because it isn't completely leveled but then again, i could be wrong. Thanks

Edit: Would a Crayola barrel in this case help at all? Thanks

Crayolas are mainly used to put inside of PVC, or are just used alone. I don't think they would help you here.

It could be that your dart isn't fitting right (either too loose or too tight), or your barrel might be too long.

Or it could just be an unstraight barrel.

Yes, my barrel is all over the place, the only thing holding it together is electrical tape and scotch tape. I'm using the normal micro dart FBR, forgot the size, but it fits fine in my Nite Finder and fit fine without the barrel. The barrel is about 1 foot long not counting the stock barrel. Would that be to long? Last question, do you know why my darts would be whirling around like that? I hate asking a lot of questions, sorry.

Well I suppose the whiling could just be the wind, or you may not have enough weight. Speaking of which, insufficient weight (I think) can have a negative effect on range. Try adding a slightly larger weight, or even put in two of whatever you're using. Or your weights are off center.

I believe that it is 1/2" FBR, but there seems to be a fairly wide variation within that range. One person's FBR may be way more than 1/2" another might be just perfect, another might be even smaller, so who knows.

The Nerfhaven mod by the Haze uses 14-16 inches of 9/16" brass and got 100 feet, pump not plugged. Your barrel is longer than that, it would seem. Are you pushing the dart all the way to the back of the stock barrel? Because you should, or else cut that thing down. You don't want too much "dead space" between dart and air output.

Also, barrels for springers should be tighter than barrels for compressed air guns. If it worked for your NF, it may not work for your LBB. Try heating a 1 foot length of FBR with a hair dryer while stretching it. Do this until the FBR looks like it will just barely have some friction on the CPVC, then make a few stefans and try those. (note the ends will stay thicker than the middle)

I don't know if i am pushing it down all the way or not, i got a pretty long plastic stick that fits far down. What would you recommended that i do? Should i just replace the entire barrel, i have like another 20 feet of the CPVC. Or, should i keep fiddling with it until it works. Thanks for your help

To see if it's all the way down:

1. Place dart in barrel and ram down until it stops

2. Mark line on ramrod, level with barrel's end

3. Take ramrod out and place along outside of barrel, with mark even with barrel end.

If the plastic rod reaches within one dart's length from the back end of the barrel (give or take a half inch maybe) it's probably all the way back.

I don't know what to tell you otherwise. I will say that, if you do replace the whole barrel, make sure that you don't accidentally plug up the air output with epoxy or something.

I would have had ranges today, but the wind is going crazy and in every direction. So, instead I will show you how to put a barrel on the LBB. Go out, and buy some 1/2" CPVC. I got my CPVC for like about 4 bucks or a giant tube, also grab some electrical tape and a 1/2" PVC coupler. If the store has a 1/2" CPVC coupler I would rather get that because then you can skip the tape and just put it together. So,  its pretty easy to put together. Just wrap electrical tape around the barrel until it because extremely snug inside the coupler. I didn't count because i was watching Star Wars. Also,  you may need to hammer the CPVC in so it because very tight. I guess you could wrap the tape in the same amount, around the stock barrel, but if you have huge hands like myself, it is a whole lot easier to just take it apart and wrap it around. So, all you need to do is wrap electrical tape until it becomes snug. I don't have any brass and don't know how that would work.

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Nerfingnoob/BARRELPAINT.jpg)
Sorry for the paint image and no ranges yet. My camera isn't working and the weather has been too windy.
Average ranges are about 100 feet or more. I don't know about my mod yet though.

Cool, I get what you mean. I accidentally made the same mistake and discovery about the coupler. I got 3 though so now I have no excuse not to do this mod(Except laziness)

Going outside to do the range test, sorry for the delay. South East Michigan weather is making it impossible for my to test ranges. I did however fix my saggy barrel and all it cost was 1.16$. I got a few CPVC and PVC 1/2" couplers. Stick the CPVC into the CPVC coupler. Then put the CPVC coupler into the PVC coupler, it should fit great. Then, if you have a dremel then sand out the other CPVC coupler so it can fit onto the stock barrel. The stock barrel is a tiny bit to fat to fit into it. If you don't have a dremel, like me, then have fun sanding! Took me a LONG time to sand it all out. Now to go outside and scare the crap out of my neighbors.


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I finally got outside to do the ranges. After 10 shots I got this as my average.

Flat: 101.5"
Angled (wind started to pick up): 120"

Average ranges I believe and thank God I am done with this!

Because I was going back and reading older things for fixing I noticed that you plugged the wrong holes.  Those are the ones that you shouldn't cover.  Just pointing that out.  My unplugged barrell relocated LBB gets 120-130 flat.